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On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:14 PM, oldwilly <oldwilly02@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > You read way too much which wasn't there into my
> question.

Oh, sure, but I like expanding such kinds of discussion from the particular
to the general for dialectics' sake.

>>I'm a part time artist and know everything
> you were talking about. What you forgot to mention is
> that each artist produces work at his or her own
> individual rate.

Well, that is kinda much of what we are both saying,
isnt it? You were asking about Adam's individual rate,
mentioning others of different output, and I expanded
upon it, slanting it towards my take on the subject which
I wanted to offer.

> This rate is dependent on far more
> factors than you listed,

There are of course many more particular
reasons, just like Joe Mad may have used more than one
gaming console intead of drawing Battle Chasers.
But normally people are thankful when I shut up and not
ask for more elaboration!

>>including the artist's mood
> and interest in the project

Which affects the "amount of detail,
work, and experimentation each artists injects". :)

(I've never met a
> commercial artist who hasn't performed some work
> he/she didn't like in order to put food on the table.
> If you have, you're one up on me).

Ha! There are some pieces I still owe from over
2 years ago. What am I doing posting? I should be
drawing!

>>>My own tries have,
> at best, been between a page and a half a day to two
> pages a day and I won't insult even the fanzines by
> trying to have it published by them. Jorge, you over
> intellectualized and if you think you didn't, you're
> wrong.

Oh, don't worry. There is no topic I don't overintellectualize.
That is what I am here for. I could make even Socrates scream
for less reflexion. Be thankful I did not drag in Schopenhauer and
El Greco somehow into this...

>>Just sit back and enjoy the correspondence.
> It's good and, imho, Adam's the best artist in the
> field. Now if only he'd get a juicy commission to do a
> Flash Gordon miniseries (sorry, my fantasy).

That would be a great subject, yeah.

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You read way too much which wasn't there into my
question. I'm a part time artist and know everything
you were talking about. What you forgot to mention is
that each artist produces work at his or her own
individual rate. This rate is dependent on far more
factors than you listed, including the artist's mood
and interest in the project (I've never met a
commercial artist who hasn't performed some work
he/she didn't like in order to put food on the table.
If you have, you're one up on me). My own tries have,
at best, been between a page and a half a day to two
pages a day and I won't insult even the fanzines by
trying to have it published by them. Jorge, you over
intellectualized and if you think you didn't, you're
wrong. Just sit back and enjoy the correspondence.
It's good and, imho, Adam's the best artist in the
field. Now if only he'd get a juicy commission to do a
Flash Gordon miniseries (sorry, my fantasy).

Oldwilly
--- Jorge Rapalo <JRapalo@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, butting in, if I may, I think it is kinda
> unfair to compare
> absolute productivity as it also depends on the
> amount of detail,
> work, and experimentation each artists injects in
> their work. Some
> pencilers do very rough pencils, practically just
> layouts, and draw
> over these in ink, like latter Byrne or Larsen,
> with a looser, more
> organic but less detailed result. Some reuse stock
> compositions or
> figures constantly. Some have very formulaic page
> structures they
> repeat again and again. Some dispense with most
> background and plug
> in photoshop-filtered photos, or just leave empty
> space for colorists
> to fill.
>
> One of the things that I love about AH-s work,
> besides the usual
> couple of ... things... is how he is constantly
> trying out different
> arrangements, angles, compositions, and polishing
> his work more and
> more. Now, sometimes I feel he actually details
> his pages too much,
> causing slow-downs of reading pace because you feel
> the urge to just
> stare at the art for a while, but that is a
> hard-to-complain-about
> "flaw". Even Perez was once considered a fast
> artist, whose output
> decreased as he became more and more attentive
> about the quality and
> detail of his artwork.
>
> In geneal, I do think most artists could be more
> productive, both for
> our and THEIR sake, but I recognize modern life
> affords a multitude of
> distractions, and slaving to a drawing board is
> hard work indeed.
> Also, artists of the past did not have multiple
> conventions, store
> signings, etc... and no nintendo, cable, dvds...
> etc.
>
> Jorge
>

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Hey guys, I'm hoping you all will be able to help me. I've recently
read "The twisted humor of St. Nick" by Sidhe. I must say that I loved
it, and I was just wondering if anyone had any favorites that was like
it. It's an AU of course, but it's funny. The whole story is very
light-hearted and enjoyable. If ya'll have any recs I'd be delighted
to read them! Completed is prefered, but WIP are also great!

Thanks in advance,

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Well, butting in, if I may, I think it is kinda unfair to compare
absolute productivity as it also depends on the amount of detail,
work, and experimentation each artists injects in their work. Some
pencilers do very rough pencils, practically just layouts, and draw
over these in ink, like latter Byrne or Larsen, with a looser, more
organic but less detailed result. Some reuse stock compositions or
figures constantly. Some have very formulaic page structures they
repeat again and again. Some dispense with most background and plug
in photoshop-filtered photos, or just leave empty space for colorists
to fill.

One of the things that I love about AH-s work, besides the usual
couple of ... things... is how he is constantly trying out different
arrangements, angles, compositions, and polishing his work more and
more. Now, sometimes I feel he actually details his pages too much,
causing slow-downs of reading pace because you feel the urge to just
stare at the art for a while, but that is a hard-to-complain-about
"flaw". Even Perez was once considered a fast artist, whose output
decreased as he became more and more attentive about the quality and
detail of his artwork.

In geneal, I do think most artists could be more productive, both for
our and THEIR sake, but I recognize modern life affords a multitude of
distractions, and slaving to a drawing board is hard work indeed.
Also, artists of the past did not have multiple conventions, store
signings, etc... and no nintendo, cable, dvds... etc.

Jorge

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In a message dated 3/31/2008 9:50:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
sjames21@insightbb.com writes:

I know Dave!!!!....I know Dave!!!!....<WBR>..it is quite tacky whom ever is
selling it should be .....Oh wait it's me selling it!lol I bought it this
way a few months ago and I just picked something I dig way better up and needed
to off set my spending a tad! So i had to part with it ...it is still a very
nice pice even though it was

her is a link to my new pick up!! :)
_http://comicartfanshttp://comicartfhttp://comichttp:/&GSub=GSub=_
(http://comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=369934&GSub=18491)

Oh, I agree, that's a much more desirable piece.

At least it wasn't you who did the chopping on the con page, good luck with
it.

Dave

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Hi. I was just asking if there's anyone who is trying to make his own manga story. If so, I would like we to talk about our series, just for curiosity. As I I'm drawing my own manga, I would like to know if in this group there are other people who is drawing his/her manga. I think its a very interesting think to talk about!

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I know Dave!!!!......it is quite tacky whom ever is selling it should be .....Oh wait it's me selling it!lol I bought it this way a few months ago and I just picked something I dig way better up and needed to off set my spending a tad! So i had to part with it ...it is still a very nice pice even though it was cut from a larger piece! :(

her is a link to my new pick up!! :)
http://comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=369934&GSub=18491
----- Original Message -----
From: fiawol@aol.com
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: [hughes-fans] Why do people do things like this?

Looks like someone took a convention jam piece (with multiple artists
drawing on the same board) and hacked it up to sell the more desirable artists.
Here's the auction image...

_http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110239095491_
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110239095491)

and here's the image from the 2004 Atlanta Comicon sketch jam...

_http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=8332&mode=searc
h_
(http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=8332&mode=search)

I just don't think I could bring myself to do something like that.

Dave :-(

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Looks like someone took a convention jam piece (with multiple artists
drawing on the same board) and hacked it up to sell the more desirable artists.
Here's the auction image...

_http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110239095491_
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110239095491)

and here's the image from the 2004 Atlanta Comicon sketch jam...

_http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=8332&mode=searc
h_
(http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=8332&mode=search)

I just don't think I could bring myself to do something like that.

Dave :-(

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Home.
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Big thanks to Majar1 for the new code!

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>
>
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>
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> collector_cliff@ wrote:
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> "collector_cliff"
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> > "collector_cliff"
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> > > "collector_cliff"
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> > > > "collector_cliff"
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Naw, Jeff, I'm referring to a full, blank page with a mere four panels running diagonally down the lower half, diminishing in size even. Don't get me wrong, despite the debate about swiping/tracing/spitting in the face of the peanut gallery, I actually quite liked the issue. It was a short story about a very limited number of characters, and the point was that the central hero was nearly alone for much of it, a point accented by sparse visuals. I just don't feel like I got $2.99 worth of visual quantity.

Having looked through the comic again, there are indeed 23 pages of art, and while I enjoyed the visual storytelling, it is practically a 'nuff said issue. There are like 10 pages with fewer than 4 bits of speech, 6 of them having 1 or less. That wouldn't be a problem except that so much space outside the panels is left blank. Perhaps "negative space" was an incorrect term to assign to that. The page I referred to specifically at the top of this post is half of a splash where there are only 2 punches figuratively thrown. Not much action, only minimal tension buildup. With the exception of a little bit of shadowed building in the very bottom corner of the first half, there is no background whatsoever. Just blank sky. It doesn't give a sensation of height. It doesn't contain text. It doesn't serve any purpose but to give the colorist room for a gradient color fill which is mostly contained in the first half. Just dark blue sky with no point. Wasted, I say. The
space would have been better used for the surprise relegated to a smaller panel on the following page.

I guess my question could have been better phrased. In an age of nontraditional panel arrangement, why would one use so much negative space behind those panels? Nice foreshortening in the one panel, sure, but the blankness draws all your attention to that one point, and it isn't enough visually or thematically to justify it.

trev

btw, has "Letterer" become a job occupation of the past? I only just realized that fonts have taken over. I wonder if Adam is using his lettering skills on ASWW. I hope so, what with his nice penmanship and complete control over the content, but I'd understand if not considering the sheer volume of work in front of him. Just a thought.

artboymoy <LegionMoy@aol.com> wrote: By negative space do you mean the way that the characters are shoved
off to one side of the panel and or just have a lot of empty space
around them?

The explaination is easy. It's for word balloons. I generally used
to leave a third to one half of the panel empty or with background if
I thought there was going to be talking. Some writers don't write a
full script and will write the dialog after they see the pages, so
the penciler has to be sure to leave enough room in to accomdate for
this. That's the sad thing I think about today's art begin done.
Computer lettering has taken over and so you're left with pages of
art that do have these open negative spaces. I love looking at some
of my collection where the lettering was done on the board or pasted
on. This way you could view the orginal comic art as it was meant to
be. A collboration between writer, penciler, and inker. Yes, yes,
color is very important as well, please don't get me wrong,
especially nowadays when you can create real moods with lighting and
shadow.

My 2 cents.

Jeff

--- In hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Mulcahy" <btmulcahy@...>
wrote:
>
> I'd say there is a big difference between use of negative space
within a panel as an artistic
> decision, say no background in a close up of a face to emphasize
the emotion or to
> provide a sense of isolation for a character, and just leaving the
backgrounds blank. Each
> image has to be judged on its on merits to determine whether the
basis for the decision
> was artistic or being up against a deadline.
>
> As for the whole swipe issue, I tend to agree with Royd that is has
all been said, at least
> until there is a slow news day and the national media picks up on
it as they did with the
> whole MJ statute much ado about nothing.
>
>
> --- In hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com, Trevor Gore <pylgrim_x@> wrote:
>
> >
> > My gripe is more about the massive amount of blank space in the
book. There are some
> pages that are almost 50% black. It's like 15 pages of content
stretched into 20 or so.
> Story's not bad, and the rest of the art likewise, but not really
money's worth when it
> comes down to it. Why has this book fallen into a purely
supplemental status for bridging
> crossovers when there are so many interesting characters under the
same banner waiting
> to be addressed?
> >
> > Any thoughts about the use/overuse of negative space in comics?
> >
>





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No "kill" required, as you mentioned Allison, the few posts to date (here)
discussing this topic have been polite without the level of accusation and
insult which have occurred elsewhere. I was more concerned that things
might become heated in Adam's defence when you and Adam have handled matters
with calm and aplomb :-) Warm regards,

Royd

_____

From: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Allison Sohn
Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2008 3:37 AM
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Kill-Re: AH! in New Avengers #39 thread?

I don't think a kill is necessary. Everyone is talking
nicely and exchanging opinions respectfully. Unless
Royd thinks it necesasry...?

--- Ddarkchylde@ <mailto:Ddarkchylde%40aol.com> aol.com wrote:

> I want to apologize for? coming late to the
> party...seems this discussion has been completely
> analyzed researched knocked down and dragged out on
> Newsarama boards...at this point it seems moot to
> discuss it here... vote to kill the thread
>
> [...now let me go hide back in my cave..]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ddarkchylde@ <mailto:Ddarkchylde%40aol.com> aol.com
> To: hughes-fans@ <mailto:hughes-fans%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:54 am
> Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers
> #39?
>
>
>
> Awww damn.. I just saw the post with the?cover
> comparison? ...damn...im staying quiet from now on
> Regards
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard l Chu <comixcollctr@ <mailto:comixcollctr%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com>
> To: hughes-fans@ <mailto:hughes-fans%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:11 am
> Subject: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?
>
> One poster matched up the two pieces to show Adam
> didn't trace it
>
>
http://forum.
<http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351116&postcount=678>
newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351116&postcount=678
>
> And he again outlined the pieces to shut one of the
> trolls up..It
> didn't work though..'cause trolls never shut up lol.
>
http://forum.
<http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351688&postcount=686>
newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351688&postcount=686
>
> I also noticed he's using Allison's quote as his
> Sig:)..is he anyone
> from here?
> Rich.
>
> --- In hughes-fans@ <mailto:hughes-fans%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Lisa & Royd"
> <liroyd@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I noticed that post as well including the
> supporting posts
> that the
> > photo was used as a reference or starting point
> not
> traced/swiped. The
> > posts which went along with the photo can be read
> here -
> > http://forum. <http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491>
newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491
> >
>
<http://forum. <http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491&page=27>
newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491&page=27>
>
> &page=27
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not interested in starting the whole thing up
> again here, I
> just wanted
> > to put the pic in context with the Newsarama
> discussion which was
> positive.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Royd
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: hughes-fans@ <mailto:hughes-fans%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:hughes-
> fans@yahoogroups. <mailto:fans%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
> > Behalf Of Scott Forbes
> > Sent: Monday, 31 March 2008 8:12 PM
> > To: hughes-fans@ <mailto:hughes-fans%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers
> #39?
> >
> >
> >
> > I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they
> picked up a photo
> that Adam
> > referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his
> Rogue drawing.
> > ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobuc
> >
>
<http://i95.photobuc
<http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
ket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
> > ket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo
> Nicola <
> > marcello.nicola@
> <mailto:marcello.nicola%40gmail.com> gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe
> taken to a new level!
> > >
> > > Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
> > >
> > > 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.
> > <mailto:sjames21%40insightbb.com> com
> <sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> > > >:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse!
> Swipe galore!!!
> more like
> > > > it!!

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I don't think a kill is necessary. Everyone is talking
nicely and exchanging opinions respectfully. Unless
Royd thinks it necesasry...?

--- Ddarkchylde@aol.com wrote:

> I want to apologize for? coming late to the
> party...seems this discussion has been completely
> analyzed researched knocked down and dragged out on
> Newsarama boards...at this point it seems moot to
> discuss it here... vote to kill the thread
>
> [...now let me go hide back in my cave..]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ddarkchylde@aol.com
> To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:54 am
> Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers
> #39?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Awww damn.. I just saw the post with the?cover
> comparison? ...damn...im staying quiet from now on
> Regards
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard l Chu <comixcollctr@yahoo.com>
> To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:11 am
> Subject: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?
>
> One poster matched up the two pieces to show Adam
> didn't trace it
>
>
http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351116&postcount=678
>
> And he again outlined the pieces to shut one of the
> trolls up..It
> didn't work though..'cause trolls never shut up lol.
>
http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351688&postcount=686
>
> I also noticed he's using Allison's quote as his
> Sig:)..is he anyone
> from here?
> Rich.
>
> --- In hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa & Royd"
> <liroyd@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I noticed that post as well including the
> supporting posts
> that the
> > photo was used as a reference or starting point
> not
> traced/swiped. The
> > posts which went along with the photo can be read
> here -
> > http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491
> >
>
<http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491&page=27>
>
> &page=27
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not interested in starting the whole thing up
> again here, I
> just wanted
> > to put the pic in context with the Newsarama
> discussion which was
> positive.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Royd
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hughes-
> fans@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Scott Forbes
> > Sent: Monday, 31 March 2008 8:12 PM
> > To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers
> #39?
> >
> >
> >
> > I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they
> picked up a photo
> that Adam
> > referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his
> Rogue drawing.
> > ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobuc
> >
>
<http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
> > ket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo
> Nicola <
> > marcello.nicola@
> <mailto:marcello.nicola%40gmail.com> gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe
> taken to a new level!
> > >
> > > Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
> > >
> > > 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.
> > <mailto:sjames21%40insightbb.com> com
> <sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> > > >:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse!
> Swipe galore!!!
> more like
> > > > it!!
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

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Just a reminder to all....the Inkwell Awards ballots go live tomorrow, Tuesday April 1st! So
please bookmark the site and show some love & support to the cause by voting.

Thanks so very much! (especially Adam & Allison)
Counting down...
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Hey guys,

It's me, Lola1618ut, and I just wanted to let you know that I've
uploaded the most recent chapter to my fanfic: Light of the Moon.

Author: Lola1618ut

Genre: Romance/Fantasy/Action-Adventure/and a lil' Comedy

Summary: Kagome's destiny lies within the lives of the sons of the Inu
no Taishou and was predicted long before she was born. See how she
delves deeper into the knowledge that she didn't just "accidentally"
fall into the well; as her present and their past collide to reveal the
true power of Kagome and her connection to the Son of the Moon.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3496437/16/Light_of_the_Moon

Check it out, thanx!

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FYI - I see another Indy card is up for auction...

TOPPS INDIANA JONES HERITAGE SKETCH CARD ADAM HUGHES
http://tinyurl.com/2pbo8p

Terry
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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Dinosaur King Trivia Game Answers

Round One: Ed
BBCCAABCBD

Round Two: Zoe
AACACCDABA

Round Three: Rex
CAACCBBCAAA

Round Four: Max
CABACDCCAAA

http://www.4kids.tv/games/play/98

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cartoon_Orbit_Promos/files/C%20O%20D%20E%20S/

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HAIRBALL ....unlocks Kittyfloss -

Another new code from michaelbui_123

--- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com, "collector_cliff" <collector_cliff@...> wrote:
>
>
> FRIED Unlocks Cluckles - aired this morning on 4kidsTV block.
>
>
> --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com, "collector_cliff"
> collector_cliff@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Another new code from michaelbui_123
> >
> > BONES Unlocks Barkbark
> >
> >
> > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com, "collector_cliff"
> > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Another new code from michaelbui_123
> > >
> > > CHOCOLATE Unlocks Bonboon
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com, Michael Bui
> > > michaelbui_123@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > LAUGHTER unlocks Chippopotamus! Another Pinata unlocked
> > > >
> > > > collector_cliff collector_cliff@ wrote: GOOSEBERRY
> > > ..................unlocks Quackberry
> > > > Big Thanks to oniking for the code.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com, "collector_cliff"
> > > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > CANDY ......unlocks Raisant -
> > > > >
> > > > > Big Thanks to zethzane9 for the new code!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com, "collector_cliff"
> > > > > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HOPPING ....unlocks Bunnycomb - hidden in The Buzz #1003
> > > (Character of
> > > > > > the Week)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com, "collector_cliff"
> > > > > > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > MYTHICAL ..unlocks Chewnicorn - (bottom row)
> > > > > > > TREAT .........unlocks Flutterscoth - hidden in The Buzz
> #989
> > > (top
> > > > > > row)
> > > > > > > SUGAR ........unlocks Lickatoad - hidden in The Buzz #989
> (top
> > > row)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That makes 20 of 51 unlocked!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com,
> "collector_cliff"
> > > > > > > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > DISCO ......unlocks Doenut - (deer 3rd row)
> > > > > > > > BELCH ......unlocks Rashberry - (purple pig 3rd row)
> > > > > > > > SLOWPOKE ...unlocks Shellybean - (snail 1st row)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Big Thanks to Doenut for one of the new codes (can you
> guess
> > > which
> > > > > > > > one...LOL)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com,
> > "collector_cliff"
> > > > > > > > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > SPICY ......unlocks Reddhott -
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Big Thanks to WhiteFox from Chaotic for the code!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "collector_cliff"
> > > > > > > > > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > HONEY - unlocks Buzzlegum (Bee Pinata)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Big Thanks to oniking from the chaoticgame.com forums
> > for
> > > the
> > > > > > > code.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "collector_cliff"
> > > > > > > > > > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > CHILI - unlocks Newtgat - hidden in Perim Protector
> > game
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > "collector_cliff"
> > > > > > > > > > > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > scanner
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Cartoon_Orbit_Promos@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > "collector_cliff"
> > > > > > > > > > > > collector_cliff@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Adam has said that he is slow when illustrating a comic book. Out of
pure curiosity, I'm wondering what's Adam's speed? For anyone who is
interested, Stan Lee once said that Joe Maneely was the fastest artist
he ever worked with. I've read that Maneely could produce three pages
per day of penciled, inked, and lettered artwork. Jack Kirby penciled
(and often co-wrote) a full 20-22 page comic a week, but he normally
put in a twelve or more hour day. I have absolutely no expectation of
Adam getting even close to these two, but I'm sill curious about his
rate. Thanks.

Oldwilly

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I want to apologize for? coming late to the party...seems this discussion has been completely analyzed researched knocked down and dragged out on Newsarama boards...at this point it seems moot to discuss it here... vote to kill the thread

[...now let me go hide back in my cave..]

-----Original Message-----
From: Ddarkchylde@aol.com
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?

Awww damn.. I just saw the post with the?cover comparison? ...damn...im staying quiet from now on
Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: richard l Chu <comixcollctr@yahoo.com>
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:11 am
Subject: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?

One poster matched up the two pieces to show Adam didn't trace it

http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351116&postcount=678

And he again outlined the pieces to shut one of the trolls up..It
didn't work though..'cause trolls never shut up lol.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351688&postcount=686

I also noticed he's using Allison's quote as his Sig:)..is he anyone
from here?
Rich.

--- In hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa & Royd" <liroyd@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I noticed that post as well including the supporting posts
that the
> photo was used as a reference or starting point not
traced/swiped. The
> posts which went along with the photo can be read here -
> http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491
> <http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491&page=27>
&page=27
>
>
>
> I'm not interested in starting the whole thing up again here, I
just wanted
> to put the pic in context with the Newsarama discussion which was
positive.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Royd
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hughes-
fans@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Scott Forbes
> Sent: Monday, 31 March 2008 8:12 PM
> To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?
>
>
>
> I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they picked up a photo
that Adam
> referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his Rogue drawing.
> ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobuc
> <http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
> ket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo Nicola <
> marcello.nicola@ <mailto:marcello.nicola%40gmail.com> gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe taken to a new level!
> >
> > Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
> >
> > 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.
> <mailto:sjames21%40insightbb.com> com <sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> > >:
> >
> > >
> > > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse! Swipe galore!!!
more like
> > > it!!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Awww damn.. I just saw the post with the?cover comparison? ...damn...im staying quiet from now on
Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: richard l Chu <comixcollctr@yahoo.com>
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:11 am
Subject: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?

One poster matched up the two pieces to show Adam didn't trace it

http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351116&postcount=678

And he again outlined the pieces to shut one of the trolls up..It
didn't work though..'cause trolls never shut up lol.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351688&postcount=686

I also noticed he's using Allison's quote as his Sig:)..is he anyone
from here?
Rich.

--- In hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa & Royd" <liroyd@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I noticed that post as well including the supporting posts
that the
> photo was used as a reference or starting point not
traced/swiped. The
> posts which went along with the photo can be read here -
> http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491
> <http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491&page=27>
&page=27
>
>
>
> I'm not interested in starting the whole thing up again here, I
just wanted
> to put the pic in context with the Newsarama discussion which was
positive.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Royd
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hughes-
fans@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Scott Forbes
> Sent: Monday, 31 March 2008 8:12 PM
> To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?
>
>
>
> I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they picked up a photo
that Adam
> referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his Rogue drawing.
> ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobuc
> <http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
> ket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo Nicola <
> marcello.nicola@ <mailto:marcello.nicola%40gmail.com> gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe taken to a new level!
> >
> > Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
> >
> > 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.
> <mailto:sjames21%40insightbb.com> com <sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> > >:
> >
> > >
> > > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse! Swipe galore!!!
more like
> > > it!!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Well fellas...let me apologize if I came across sounding a little too aggressive..I'm basically saying the same thing you guys are =D

Seems like this is a kinda a new topic than the title... but a comment "on topic" so to speak. after looking at Avenger 39 its kinda clear? that both rainmaker and Fairchild? where "heavily referenced [swiped traced ..whatever]on more than half a dozen instances.

There are allot of people making there way around "however they can" in the biz, but I gottah say I don't see Mack as one of them. Id have to say I've always considered him a talented one and would go so far as to give him the benefit of the doubt of having an assistant that took liberties (:-/...maybe????

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Forbes <scofo.art@gmail.com>
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?

Oh god, I know, I wasn't saying he traced, copied or whatever. I was just
merely posting it. Hughes is up there with the top illustrators of this
generation (at least for me). I thought it was funny that people called
this swiping, when his sketch looked completely different, other than the
hands, and they were referenced not traced.
Being an artist, I have used reference and continue to use it. It's an
important tool, but Mack copied photographs, and traced other peoples work.
My intentions weren't to start a heated debate or anything like that, it
just struck me odd. That's all.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <Ddarkchylde@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com

Dude, reference and rip are two different things, and the Internet is
brutal. If you? noticed Adams sketch is more appealing to the eye due to the
fact it has more exaggerated curves with the?right hand?only? part of the
drawing that syncs up with the picture. Shadows ,for the most ,part are
different,? face [dare I say] more appealing. So it is very possible that
the maxim photo may not be the reference, or a very good example on how to
reference something properly and make it something more and different.

?Once again , Referencing?in art?is almost an institution? as a tool for an
artist ?to check his drawings accuracy and to inspire.?Also to draw from
life.The pose isn't exactly? uncommon so id say it could go either way.

The net?great tool and an easy way to deliver information[I'm sure if they
look hard enough they can find a photo Davinci used? for the Mona Lisa =P]

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Forbes <scofo.art@gmail.com <scofo.art%40gmail.com>>
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com <hughes-fans%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 8:11 am
Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?

I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they picked up a photo that Adam
referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his Rogue drawing.
ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo Nicola <
marcello.nicola@gmail.com <marcello.nicola%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe taken to a new level!
>
> Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
>
> 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.com <sjames21%40insightbb.com><sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> >:
>
> >
> > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse! Swipe galore!!! more like
> > it!!
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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One poster matched up the two pieces to show Adam didn't trace it

http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351116&postcount=678

And he again outlined the pieces to shut one of the trolls up..It
didn't work though..'cause trolls never shut up lol.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=5351688&postcount=686

I also noticed he's using Allison's quote as his Sig:)..is he anyone
from here?
Rich.

--- In hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa & Royd" <liroyd@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I noticed that post as well including the supporting posts
that the
> photo was used as a reference or starting point not
traced/swiped. The
> posts which went along with the photo can be read here -
> http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491
> <http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491&page=27>
&page=27
>
>
>
> I'm not interested in starting the whole thing up again here, I
just wanted
> to put the pic in context with the Newsarama discussion which was
positive.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Royd
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hughes-
fans@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Scott Forbes
> Sent: Monday, 31 March 2008 8:12 PM
> To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?
>
>
>
> I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they picked up a photo
that Adam
> referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his Rogue drawing.
> ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobuc
> <http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
> ket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo Nicola <
> marcello.nicola@ <mailto:marcello.nicola%40gmail.com> gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe taken to a new level!
> >
> > Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
> >
> > 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.
> <mailto:sjames21%40insightbb.com> com <sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> > >:
> >
> > >
> > > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse! Swipe galore!!!
more like
> > > it!!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Oh god, I know, I wasn't saying he traced, copied or whatever. I was just
merely posting it. Hughes is up there with the top illustrators of this
generation (at least for me). I thought it was funny that people called
this swiping, when his sketch looked completely different, other than the
hands, and they were referenced not traced.
Being an artist, I have used reference and continue to use it. It's an
important tool, but Mack copied photographs, and traced other peoples work.
My intentions weren't to start a heated debate or anything like that, it
just struck me odd. That's all.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <Ddarkchylde@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com

Dude, reference and rip are two different things, and the Internet is
brutal. If you? noticed Adams sketch is more appealing to the eye due to the
fact it has more exaggerated curves with the?right hand?only? part of the
drawing that syncs up with the picture. Shadows ,for the most ,part are
different,? face [dare I say] more appealing. So it is very possible that
the maxim photo may not be the reference, or a very good example on how to
reference something properly and make it something more and different.

?Once again , Referencing?in art?is almost an institution? as a tool for an
artist ?to check his drawings accuracy and to inspire.?Also to draw from
life.The pose isn't exactly? uncommon so id say it could go either way.

The net?great tool and an easy way to deliver information[I'm sure if they
look hard enough they can find a photo Davinci used? for the Mona Lisa =P]

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Forbes <scofo.art@gmail.com <scofo.art%40gmail.com>>
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com <hughes-fans%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 8:11 am
Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?

I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they picked up a photo that Adam
referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his Rogue drawing.
ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo Nicola <
marcello.nicola@gmail.com <marcello.nicola%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe taken to a new level!
>
> Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
>
> 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.com <sjames21%40insightbb.com><sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> >:
>
> >
> > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse! Swipe galore!!! more like
> > it!!
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Yes, I noticed that post as well including the supporting posts that the
photo was used as a reference or starting point not traced/swiped. The
posts which went along with the photo can be read here -
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491
<http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=147491&page=27> &page=27

I'm not interested in starting the whole thing up again here, I just wanted
to put the pic in context with the Newsarama discussion which was positive.

Regards,

Royd

_____

From: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Forbes
Sent: Monday, 31 March 2008 8:12 PM
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?

I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they picked up a photo that Adam
referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his Rogue drawing.
ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobuc
<http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>
ket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo Nicola <
marcello.nicola@ <mailto:marcello.nicola%40gmail.com> gmail.com> wrote:

> The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe taken to a new level!
>
> Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
>
> 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.
<mailto:sjames21%40insightbb.com> com <sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> >:
>
> >
> > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse! Swipe galore!!! more like
> > it!!
> >
>

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Dude, reference and rip are two different things, and the Internet is brutal. If you? noticed Adams sketch is more appealing to the eye due to the fact it has more exaggerated curves with the?right hand?only? part of the drawing that syncs up with the picture. Shadows ,for the most ,part are different,? face [dare I say] more appealing. So it is very possible that the maxim photo may not be the reference, or a very good example on how to reference something properly and make it something more and different.

?Once again , Referencing?in art?is almost an institution? as a tool for an artist ?to check his drawings accuracy and to inspire.?Also to draw from life.The pose isn't exactly? uncommon so id say it could go either way.

The net?great tool and an easy way to deliver information[I'm sure if they look hard enough they can find a photo Davinci used? for the Mona Lisa =P]

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Forbes <scofo.art@gmail.com>
To: hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 8:11 am
Subject: Re: [hughes-fans] Re: AH! in New Avengers #39?

I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they picked up a photo that Adam
referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his Rogue drawing.
ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo Nicola <
marcello.nicola@gmail.com> wrote:

> The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe taken to a new level!
>
> Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
>
> 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.com <sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> >:
>
> >
> > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse! Swipe galore!!! more like
> > it!!
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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hi all u crazzzy fans i am ava and am a bigggggggggg fan of
inuyasha even if he is a little crack minded
--- In crazed_about_inuyasha@yahoogroups.com, Maria Celia Delahaye
<akane_1500@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm celia, and my favourite character is Kouga, he's really
hot! XDD
>
> ali taghvajou <taghvajou@...> escribió: hi, i m Ali. i
hope so...
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Melissa Danford <wixiepixie@...>
> To: crazed_about_inuyasha@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 23:54:12
> Subject: Re: [crazed_about_inuyasha] Re: Offical Welcome Thread!
Introduce yourself here!
>
> hi i'm melissa i guess
>
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>
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him :)
>
>
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>
> --- In crazed_about_ inuyasha@ yahoogroups. com, Melissa Danford
> <wixiepixie@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > i love Kagome too i don't know why but i do thanks for writing
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> > <xxnarakus_girlxx@ > wrote:
> > >
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> > > ofcourse Naraku(cause he's hot and all) but anyway hi
> > >
> >
> > Hey, I'm Meagan, call me Meg, and I, ever since I watched the
first
> > episode, have been addicted to Inuyasha...my favorite
character... I'm
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By negative space do you mean the way that the characters are shoved
off to one side of the panel and or just have a lot of empty space
around them?

The explaination is easy. It's for word balloons. I generally used
to leave a third to one half of the panel empty or with background if
I thought there was going to be talking. Some writers don't write a
full script and will write the dialog after they see the pages, so
the penciler has to be sure to leave enough room in to accomdate for
this. That's the sad thing I think about today's art begin done.
Computer lettering has taken over and so you're left with pages of
art that do have these open negative spaces. I love looking at some
of my collection where the lettering was done on the board or pasted
on. This way you could view the orginal comic art as it was meant to
be. A collboration between writer, penciler, and inker. Yes, yes,
color is very important as well, please don't get me wrong,
especially nowadays when you can create real moods with lighting and
shadow.

My 2 cents.

Jeff

--- In hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Mulcahy" <btmulcahy@...>
wrote:
>
> I'd say there is a big difference between use of negative space
within a panel as an artistic
> decision, say no background in a close up of a face to emphasize
the emotion or to
> provide a sense of isolation for a character, and just leaving the
backgrounds blank. Each
> image has to be judged on its on merits to determine whether the
basis for the decision
> was artistic or being up against a deadline.
>
> As for the whole swipe issue, I tend to agree with Royd that is has
all been said, at least
> until there is a slow news day and the national media picks up on
it as they did with the
> whole MJ statute much ado about nothing.
>
>
> --- In hughes-fans@yahoogroups.com, Trevor Gore <pylgrim_x@> wrote:
>
> >
> > My gripe is more about the massive amount of blank space in the
book. There are some
> pages that are almost 50% black. It's like 15 pages of content
stretched into 20 or so.
> Story's not bad, and the rest of the art likewise, but not really
money's worth when it
> comes down to it. Why has this book fallen into a purely
supplemental status for bridging
> crossovers when there are so many interesting characters under the
same banner waiting
> to be addressed?
> >
> > Any thoughts about the use/overuse of negative space in comics?
> >
>

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I checked Newsarama last night and noticed they picked up a photo that Adam
referenced (or it appears) from Maxim for his Rogue drawing.
ahref.jpg <http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l134/Justice41/ahref.jpg>

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Marcello Santo Nicola <
marcello.nicola@gmail.com> wrote:

> The right-hand-as-left-hand thing was swipe taken to a new level!
>
> Marcello S. Nicola, D.Sc.
>
> 2008/3/27, Scott James <sjames21@insightbb.com <sjames21%40insightbb.com>
> >:
>
> >
> > WOW!!!! that is really sad!!!! Homage Me Arse! Swipe galore!!! more like
> > it!!
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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